NEW Second installment of Internet
Segment: update for June 15, 2010:
Update on our Court Action:
This is our second installment of information regarding
our court case. We have received extra phone calls from victims asking
for information and or direct help. The requests are here answered for those
that asked the questions and for those who may want to know. First we are
not perfect, nor attorneys and financially unable to do more than what is
presented here. One of the questions asked was, would we help with another
persons court case; we cannot give legal advise as it is considered illegal,
we are going to give adequate review of our own complaint to give the victims
an insight as to how to handle their own as a parallel. The facts of how
a victim should approach the problem of formulating their own complaint is
a relative issue, as we believe as we have said on the first installment
that a complaint should be entered into a State Court and not a Federal Court.
The reason for that is mentioned in the first installment.
A second question was regarding FOIA and State
FOILS, where the specifics were how to go about preparing an FOIA/FOIL. The
first issue to face is that the authorities both state and federal are allowed
to lie and keep the information you may be seeking where it is about yourself
secret. Because whether you're under human experimentation or some form of
new bizarre form of trustee prisoner, you would be refused on the basis that
an ongoing lawful investigation was being performed upon the person. As well
from our own efforts to FOIL and FOIA the information being sought will not
be given unless it is about a generic topic. Such topics must specify a time
period and the actual information requested must be about some aspect that
is not directly connected to the information you seek but is possible from
the generic information to cause a perception that such as what you truly
seek is likely to be present. All in all the only way to get information
about ones self is to FOIA/FOIL and then subsequently appeal and upon getting
nothing still then to sue in a court for an answer. However evidence
showing standing and harm will be needed to get the court to find for the
Plaintiffs and order an answer from the Defendants. This information is what
we have learned from personally sending out FOIA's/FOIL's.
In our first installment we made it clear that
attorneys will not help us and we presume will not help any attack victim,
due to the fact the attacks are being done under law, however they are unconstitutional.
We are "Pro Se" as a necessity, because lawyers will not touch this kind
of problem; until someone establishes case law by winning.
Now our Court update for June 15, 2010 is:
The Court is currently hearing Defendants and Plaintiffs
Motions. The Defendants always ask for a dismissal and have entered
a Motion for dismissal, we the Plaintiffs Debbie and John have entered a
cross motion to counter the Defendants Motion, that we believe is more than
adequate for discounting and mooting the Defendants motion based on law.
Therefore we are currently awaiting the outcome of the Justices decision
in this most important matter. The decision by the Justice regarding
those motions is set for mid-July and neither Defendants or us Plaintiffs,
Debbie and John are required to attend, so far as we know at this present
time. Our complaint asks that all New Yorkers who have been experimented
on without their knowledge or consent must be notified by Defendants being
New York authorities, when and if we win our case. No public hearing
is scheduled at this time.
Recent emails from victims about New York State
Legislative Bill A6665C Gottfried (MS) -- Prohibits participation in torture
and improper treatment of prisoners by health care professionals information
of New York State Legislative Bills to prohibit Physicians involving themselves
in harsh investigations, does not benefit electronic attack victims.
IN OUR COMPLAINT WE ILLUSTRATE WE ARE LEGALLY SANCTIONED UNCONSTITUTIONALLY
BY NYS AUTHORITIES TO BE EXPOSED TO EGREGIOUS TREATMENT.
The following is John Mecca's and Deborah Lamb's
analysis based on NYS Law of the text of the Bill 4495--A, that shows in
simple terms the true purpose and meaning of the NYS Bill; “PROHIBITING PARTICIPATION
IN TORTURE AND IMPROPER TREATMENT OF PRISONERS BY HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS”.
Where the Bills definition of "Prisoner" means any person who is subject
to punishment, detention, incarceration, interrogation, intimidation or coercion.
1.) This Bill is to a great degree for the purpose of removing linkage
of liability, of NYS, that the State not be held liable for the actions of
medical personnel whom engage in aiding harsh and egregious treatment; is
by the Bill implied to be applied on a case by case basis and is not a blanket
statement for all medical personnel. Nor intended as a Bill for indicating
criminal activity by medical authorities.
2.) In essence the Bill is an unconstitutional effort of the NYS legislature
to have on their books a law that places responsibility for wrong doing by
medical personnel upon them alone, and further that the law by its wording
leaves the medical personnel responsible to prove where sued that they had
substantiation of adequate legal sanction, from whatever authority they operated
under; such proof necessary for a medical practitioner to obtain from the
authority they acted under has intrinsic barriers at present under for example
Federal FISA and other authorities such as Military Tribunals. For example
Guantanamo Internees are not protected under the CAT Act due to the U.S. State
Department having claimed exemption of that act and other restrictions such
as those under the Geneva Convention, by the authorities of the State Department
claiming allowance to contravene those international and other agreements
and laws through the legal stricture of “Lex Specialis”, in legal theory
and practice, is a doctrine relating to the interpretation of laws, and can
apply in both domestic and international law contexts. The doctrine states
that a law governing a specific subject matter (lex specialis) overrides a
law which only governs general matters (lex generalis).
3.) By the laws wording, it does not therefore actually prohibit medical
personnel from engaging in aiding harsh and similar treatment where legally
sanctioned, nor does it encompass or prohibit pain and suffering caused by
human research or experimentation. Human experimentation is not an issue covered
by this Bill, except that the Bill excludes pain and suffering as an issue
where they were caused from NYS waiver of consent human experimentation or
research. Therefore the Bill does infer sanction of legitimacy of NYS
waiver of consent human experimentation or research to cause pain and suffering.
4.) The NYS law does not state that there is a criminal penalty for
medical personnel, by there not being any mention of any penalty, is inferring
that it is merely a reportable condition of a medical personnel's activity,
which may result in some peer review.
5.) In the Bill there is no mention of addendum to criminal law, as
a further indication there is no criminal penalty implied. And how could
there be any criminal penalty, where the higher Federal authorities have
laws for virtual torture and harsh treatment that sanction such activities
to that which the NYS Bill decries.
6.) The Bill implies without qualification that NYS authorities themselves
cannot be involved with virtual torture and harsh treatment and that such
lack of text qualification prohibiting NYS authorities as a meaning of implied
restriction of NYS authorities, is wholly mitigated by the existence of the
vague waiver of consent human experiment and research laws, which can enable
use of pain and suffering as apart of an experiment or research. Therefore
by the laws wording, it does not therefore actually prohibit authorities or
medical personnel from engaging or in aiding harsh and similar egregious treatment
where legally sanctioned as such laws allowing sanction exist in NYS.
7.) The Bill essentially is used as a vehicle to unconstitutionally
quantify persons who are ill treated inside or outside of New York by medical
authorities or NYS authorities as without their guaranteed NYS CONSTITUTIONS
CIVIL RIGHTS of due process, freedom of speech, freedom of religion and other
rights. This is done by the qualification that such abuses by authorities
are as can be understood from the text of the law are not open to criminal
penalties.
8.) The Bill is an unconstitutional extension and subsequent unconstitutional
extension as a prejudice against any person egregiously effected by NYS medical
personnel, accommodated by the unconstitutional acceptance in a breech of
New Yorkers civil rights that enable unconstitutional acts by Federal or even
NYS authorities to be considered separable as to the liability of NYS where
in the Bill the state seeks to sever its liability as regards egregious actions
of medical authorities and is wholly conflicting with the scope, meaning
and purpose of not only New Yorkers Constitutions Civil Rights but also of
other states constitutions Civil Rights and some would argue is in conflict
even with the U.S. Constitution where honest legal authorities were queried.
9.) All TI's as persons whom are being attacked face possible negative
influence by this Bill in context of: (a) the unconstitutional definitions
the NY legislature invented to protect NYS from liability (b) and the unconstitutional
holding by the NY legislature of egregious acts by licensed and other authorities
as not actionable for criminal charges and, (c) it is unconstitutional for
the NYS to imply no criminal penalty where the reason is to unconstitutionally
alleviate NYS of liability as to the acts of their licensed or otherwise controlled
medical professionals, as it is a perversion of the law. Such that
upon authorities or medical personnel coming to light in the discovery phase
of a complaint, could have such legislation enable offending defendants
to claim that New York State and hence its authorities are free and clear
from liability except as to minor infraction and that could result in pain
and suffering not being allowed as issues of intent by defendants and
therefore such pain and suffering as liability could be evaded by New York
State authorities and New York State.
10.) In summation this Bill is slickly worded, as it decreases our
NYS Civil Rights as sovereign people to prevent liability not only of New
York and its New York authorities, but also its medical personnel as well.
11.) The Bill needs to be opposed and not embraced.
The Bill if read carefully is an effort by the
NYS legislature to prevent News York States liability if a physician is sued
by a victim for having been involved with torture or ill treatment of a person.
As well the Bill CLICK here <http://public.leginfo.state.ny.us/menugetf.cgi>
check full text, summary and enter the numbers S04495A up will come the full
text and read carefully you will see the legislature is providing legal loopholes
for them to allow physicians as NY licensed medical practitioners to act to
do torture, but that the new legislation holds NY free from being held liable
and also NY does not say that those who chose to do the deed will be held
criminally liable, just that NY will not face liability and therefore could
not be sued. Not sued at least if the wording is inadequate, the law itself
is unconstitutional to sanction the act of participation in torture or harsh
treatment anyway. Additionally the legislation provides another loophole
that legally sanctioned actions of whatever authority are not covered, they
could be Nazi Doctor Joseph Mengele research and experiments under wavier
of consent human experimentation available under public laws of NY. So what
is the legislation, it is an unconstitutional construction releasing physicians
from adhering to the new law and frees NY from liability where such New York
medical authorities involved with ill treatment of a person may be taking
place inside or outside of NY jurisdiction. To sum up, victims and activists
who care, should start a letter writing campaign to have the final Bills draft
scrapped and that the true issues of Peoples rights be addressed, by espousing
that NY have a policy that physicians offenses whether under color of law
or not should be criminal offenses. That the NY State must not be allowed
to state in law, well if you want to be involved with torture NY physician
you can but you are not sanctioned to do so by NY, that is NY saying the
people the physician is acting upon to aid torture or harsh treatment have
no rights and must be countered by email, mail, phone calls and faxes to
say: “SCRAP NYS Senator Duanes BILL S04495A” it's unconstitutional under the
Civil Rights of New Yorkers CONSTITUTION to dilute New Yorkers rights.
Below is an excerpt from the tragic Bill, notice
the last sentence in bold text, which is a blatant loophole for a physician
to ignore the prohibition on torture the Bill pretends to enforce.
§ 22.
Participation in torture or improper treatment of prisoners by
9 health care professionals. 1. Definitions.
As used in this section, the
10 terms "torture" and "improper treatment" shall
be interpreted in accord-
11 ance with applicable international treaties,
principles and standards as
12 well as the decisions, observations and recommendations
of the corre-
13 sponding interpreting bodies. However, for the
purposes of this section,
14 it shall not be an element of either
"torture" or "improper treatment"
15 that such acts be committed by a government
or non-government actor,
16 entity, or official; under color
of law; or not under color of law. As
17 used in this section, unless the context
clearly requires otherwise, the
18 following terms have the following meanings:
( LAMB AND MECCA REMARK; THE ABOVE IS IN CONTEXT OF WHERE THE BILL HAS THE
DEFINITION OF TORTURE BELOW)
(b) "Torture"
means any intentional act or intentional omission by
40 which severe pain or suffering, whether physical
or mental, is inflicted
41 on a person for such purposes as obtaining from
the person or from a
42 third person information or
a confession, punishing the person for an
43 act the person or a third person has committed
(including the holding of
44 a belief or membership in any group) or is suspected
of having commit-
45 ted, or intimidating or coercing
the person or a third person, or for
46 any reason based on discrimination of any kind.
It does not include
47 pain or suffering arising only from, inherent
in or incidental to lawful
48 sanction.
( LAMB AND MECCA REMARK; THE ABOVE WORDS OF -< inherent in or incidental
to lawful sanction>- ACTUALLY CAN MEAN HUMAN RESEARCH AND OR EXPERIMENT)
There are other loopholes hidden also where they
are in context where a paragraph leads into another that allow for further
abuse, the BILL is a harm upon the people and a boom to the State.
We have seen the e-mail circulating telling TI's among others
to e-mail the representatives of an Assemblyman in New York and the New York
State Senator proposing those bills, however what TI's really should be doing
in order to help their cause is email all the Senators and Assembly persons
the following message:
“SCRAP NYS Senator Duanes BILL S04495A” it's unconstitutional
under the Civil Rights of New Yorkers CONSTITUTION to dilute New Yorkers
rights by tacit allowance to physicians to engage in such activity and to
codify human experimentation that causes pain and suffering as altogether
allowable as the Bill states is the case pertinent to the new legislation.
It is immoral and illegal under NYS laws.
CLICK LINKS TO email NYS SENATE AND ASSEMBLY.
<http://www.nysenate.gov/senators>
<http://assembly.state.ny.us/mem/>
To end this installment we thank all the victims and
activists who are working diligently to stop this egregious atrocity.
We will update as soon as possible!
END OF -- June 15, 2010 – INSTALLMENT.
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PREVIOUS POST - JUNE 30, 2010
"WARNING: TAKE NOTICE"
SECRET LAWS TO STEAL YOUR BODY, MIND AND
SOUL
IN NEW YORK AND OTHER STATES,
ARE NOW IN EFFECT.
It has been discovered there are New York Public Health
Laws and New York Mental Health Laws that are being used to strip New
Yorkers of their New York “STATE” Civil Rights secretly, allowing “State
of New York” authorities to destroy any New Yorkers health and life without
notification of the persons affected. The same kinds of actions are happening
to all persons in other “states”, under their own states laws.
To make things worse there are other New York State
laws that allow state authorities to evade admitting that they have secretly
declared a person incompetent for subsequent nomination into a deadly
human experiment using covertly installed in the body devices (in vivo)
that emit deadly energy, while the person is completely unaware and going
about their daily tasks and going to work. Even if the person's doctor or
lawyer were to ask the authorities, the authorities decide whether to tell
them or not and according to law, do not have to tell them, unless the victim
has substantial evidence and takes the authorities to court. If a person's
doctor or lawyer knows of what is happening to the victim, they won't tell
the victim, because they are licensed with the state and therefore obligated
not to aid uncovering an ongoing human experiment “lawful investigation”.
The attacks on people throughout the nation and world
vary, where the technology ranges from implanted in the body devices emitting
deadly energy to other techniques of implanted in the body tracking devices
to allow them to be efficiently stalked by authorities teams of harassers
and also tracking devices to allow the use of deadly radar beams to be
sent into their bodies location. The general issue is that the people are
having their immune systems traumatized to destroy their health and minds.
Many of the victims report torture level pain in a virtual sentence of
death.
In States like New York the laws allow federal authorities
like the agency Health and Human Services (HHS), military authorities
like the CIA, hospitals, universities, institutions, private corporations
and doctors, to operate under permission of written New York State laws;
the entities mentioned are therefore by law given permission to operate
in the State of New York by New York itself, those entities however are
still obligated to obey the other laws of New York State that protect a
person, which the entities are not obeying. The entities are also obligated
not to breach New York States CONSTITUTIONS CIVIL RIGHTS OF NEW YORKERS;
therefore the entities from other than the state itself are actionable for
liability for breaching the peoples civil rights, just the same as state
authorities are liable when they have ignored a persons civil rights. Thereby
all of the attacks reported by people throughout the nation are being allowed
by the respective STATES laws that the person lives in. The issue therefore
is that in order to bring a complaint to stop the attacks it can and should
be brought first in a STATE Court, because the STATE authorities are in
action as permitting the activity even where it is from federal authorities
for example. This is known from our having found the laws that specify the
state gives permission for the entities to operate inside New Yorks jurisdiction.
The specific laws that allow such atrocities will be outlined in detail
in this articles next installment.
It sounds impossible, it is not, there are such laws
here in New York and there appears to be the same laws, with somewhat
different wording that allow for the same thing to happen, in the other
49 states.
There are several thousand people over the last 15
or so years telling of their being attacked and or used in human experiments
that have destroyed their lives, these people were leading normal lives
and suddenly their world was turned upside down by State authorized authorities
making up for their state budgets deficits by designating people falsely
to be “incompetent” and selling the victimized people for use in human
experiments for profit. The old saying is, “if you follow the money the
truth will be found”; the money motive is a part of the issue of why a
person is chosen, because the states need money and they also have men
and women without conscience that will do whatever they are ordered to
do. Not like you, where your conscience would bother you to pick some
New Yorker or people in another state to experiment on, knowing full well
their life would be destroyed. Because of the authorities and media ignoring
this injustce many of the victims of this abuse have died.
Imagine you wake up and find yourself the target of
the authorities, who are really covertly silently torturing you and no
authorities will listen to you or help you at all. The electronic pulsing
devices do not only cause extreme pain, but are designed to affect the frontal
lobe of the brain to depreciate judgment, in effect a reducing the intellect
of a person. As the laws are today you too are also at risk for the same
thing happening, as well also your family and friends and acquaintances;
the potential really exists that you have already been implanted and the
authorities have not turned it on or high enough for you to notice it. The
laws are on the books and the activities are well known to be going on,
there are innumerable websites discussing the attacks on people throughout
the nation. One person having this happen to them, is one too many.
The discussion of people affected varies as to how
to get the attacks to stop. There has until now been confusion about
the source of jurisdictional responsibility of the attacks, resulting
in people taking their cases incorrectly to the federal courts; it has
been shown by law the states are responsible and not the federal government.
Not to say the federal government is not involved; it is a fact however
the states are permitting the attacks upon a New Yorkers, Californians,
Texans or whatever state the person lives in, where federal or other entities
are in action.
Gathering sufficient evidence is what is needed to gain a hearing
in court, it has been difficult to do under the circumstances that the
authorities call the attacks “human experiments or research”, as a cover
for their unconstitutional crimes. The general issues for most of those
claiming to be affected is the common thread of their experiences with
other victims, such similar reports amount to evidence by commonality; that
essentially says to an observer, that something more than mass hysteria
is occurring.
The victims reporting here in this article have gathered
substantial evidence of various kinds and their evidence conforms to
courts requirements for a hearing. It is now in the hands of the Court
to do the right thing, or cause further litigation of the case where it
may ultimately wind up having to be appealed and by due diligence of Lamb
and Mecca, wind up in a federal court; that will in all likelihood result
in the federal court enforcing their New York State Constitutional Civil
Rights, where they coincide with their federal Constitutions' Civil Rights.
You might have asked yourself why attorneys have been
unable or unwilling to bring a complaint into court, why detectives produce
nothing they will back up in a court, why doctors see nothing; well there
are laws in New York and other states that hold them criminally liable
for exposing an ongoing “so called” human experiment quantified in the
eyes of the authorities as being a “lawful investigation” of a suspect/subject.
Such so called “lawful investigation” have the full weight of law to enforce
the maintenance of secrecy, so that the experiments remain secret, thereby
the laws prevent licensed with the state authorities from rendering “honest
service” to victims. Where the licensed professionals such as attorneys,
private detectives and doctors may well appear to be helping, they always
fall short of the goal because they are compromised by the laws, if they
are not actively misleading the victim. The laws that allow what is described
are unconstitutional, but are used by authorities as if they were constitutional;
the laws for maintaining secrecy of investigations to keep victims from
getting evidence by the state authorities, is by keeping all licensed with
the state professionals on a legal leash. Many of the licensed with the
state professionals and authorities have exhibited actions and attitude
of sanctioning such atrocities. The same reasonings are why the news media
has ignored the victims plight. The only way out is through a court where
the activities are exposed.
Some of those who are being experimented on have made
an effort to get the problem resolved by going to court. That may seem
like the intelligent response to do, to get something so offensive to stop,
but it has been a nightmare for those making the attempt in court; due
to another set of authorities laws and policy and case law that support
State authorities allowance to lie compounding the problem. Such that the
authorities can legally deny all knowledge of the activity, leaving the
victim without any ability to get to the truth unless their court case
is properly structured. To most of you who read this, it may seem impossible
the authorities are allowed to lie in consideration of what's being complained
about, but the issue has been decided in court cases that have found for
State authorities being allowed to lie while in pursuit of a “lawful investigation”
of a suspect/human subject; where in our case we are talking about the
authorities pursuit of a person who is a human experiment. Licensed with
the state professionals are not supposed to help or aid a victimized person
to expose the activity, professionals who don't want to go along could be
subject to retaliation by authorities, in being threatened with jail or loose
their license to enforce secrecy; such threats have no real weight and those
professionals that go along are guilty of conspiracy to defraud. That anybody
can have the State step in and seize them as their guardian by nominating
the person incompetent secretly without notice is inherently illegal and
on the opposing side supported that it is illegal by case law. The licensed
professionals are not free from responsibility, they are actionable and
not free from liability where they are silent or go along with authorities,
on the basis of the egregious nature of the actions authorized by authorities.
What is being done to people in the 50 states, is against their guaranteed
state Constitutions Civil Rights of persons. These are some of the reasons
for all the secrecy by authorities, being they can be stopped and the authorities
know that, their main objective is to keep victims from going to court and
that is their highest priority.
As victims we have been fighting for our lives trying
to stop the insidious atrocity in court, it is a fight critical and crucial
to saving our own lives, as well as to help save the lives of many people
in New York and throughout the United States where we win. The two affected
new Yorkers, John and Debbie have been diligent in searching out a means
to produce evidence where the evidence gathered has not been dependent
upon licensed authorities; as a part of their evidence they have used
a special advanced electronic test according to an electromagnetic standard
test of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, Inc., which
is the world's leading professional association for the advancement of
technology, setting standards for industry and governments around the world.
They have gathered other evidences as well to support their case.
How did we get to this depraved state of human rights
abuse and what can be done to reverse the trend of adoption of Nazi like
legal allowances to have our State Constitution Civil Rights of persons
of any state taken away. These actions of state authorities taking away
a person's rights without telling anyone that they are really stealing the
body and mind of a person to torture or kill them, is just like a judicial
secret star chamber of rogue judges deciding who lives and who dies. The
actions of authorities described in this article are a new form of corruption
for use by authorities in personal vendettas, legitimate activist assassinations,
money making, power and outright sadistic training of other authorities to
learn how to do an attack upon a person. That is an issue for the courts
to remedy you may think, well there are two people in Court in New York who
are also victims and as of this June 2nd 2010, they are attempting to turn
this extraordinary immoral activity around and make such vague laws illegal
through case law. The Plaintiffs in court being Deborah Lamb and John Mecca
are being egregiously affected with pain and suffering from electronic torture
by implanted devices, they are currently scheduled for a hearing this July
in Long Island New York, of their well supported and properly organized case.
You are asked to forward this article to all and anyone whom you believe cares,
who has lost hope, who can further spread the word and to those who may want
to attend the hearing to show support. Also we need your Prayers that justice
prevails and we win.
The next installment will be in a few days to a week!
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